A3, Grayshott and the Tunnel.

Hi all

Over the past few months I have 'over heard'/ listened to, different things that might happen to Grayshott when the tunnel is built.

NOW THEN HIGHWAYS AGENCY 'geeks' please listen to this.

Grayshott has always been a RAT run for the Hindhead lights.
When the tunnel is done this will not be the case, but I know you will need to let these people know that.

1. GET THE LISS/Greatham roundabout finished, it's built the wrong way round, so must have been designed for a flyover. Just take a look at it and other flyovers, to see this. SO GET IT SORTED.
2. Get Liphooks little fly over upgraded for a drop in and off. The one to Bordon from Liphook, then all the Bordon, (and other areas) peps can get on even quicker. Speed is time and TIME is money dont you know.
3.LEAVE Grayshott alone, why give us speed ramps on every street, you never did it a few years ago. IF PEOPLE can get to LONDON quicker getting onto the A3 earlier then this means LESS traffic SO NO NEED FOR CALMING? Unlike the idea for closing the OLD A3, LEAVE well alone till it needs a fix. Just like all other areas of the Government. IF IT NOT BROKE DO NOT BOTHER WITH IT, and if it is broke its got to be Buggered.
4. Speed ramps on the Crossways road ??? For the love of GOD, WHY, Put these things all along the road from BORDON TO HEADLEY DOWN that might Piss the people of enough to use the A3 much quicker than letting them come all the way to Grayshott then using them! And the traffic should be a lot less if the above is done as well.

SO PLEASE leave Grayshott alone. We seem to be a quick fix for problems that need better fixing not Ramps, give us Cameras and or police with cameras. That will sort it.

Long live the resistance.

Have been here a year so not a pro on the subject. Can't comment on Liss/Liphook roundabouts but re: traffic calming in Crossways Road. I totally agree that we can go 'traffic calming' crazy (one by church is ridiculous - should be a 'calmer' not a 'stopper' - adds to frustration although I do realise it stops a crunch further up by shops. However, living further out of village on Crossways (before you reach the dip) I can confirm that many (if not most) vehicles are certainly NOT adhering to the 30mph speed limit. This applies to vehicles travelling into and out of the village. I wouldn't be surprised if some were touching 50mph (particularly later in the evening). I also think that drivers think it is a 40 zone - so maybe it needs a reminder sign , if not some kind of traffic CALMING (not stopping/barring, like the church).

We are also getting too many parked cars on brow of hill, coming out of the dip. Extremely dangerous to see / makes traffic bunch up esp. in morning rush, constant pavement parking restricts pedestrians too. Surely there is enough off-street parking for these properties, but if you have to park go further along the straight/flat section.

Re: OLD A3 - I totally agree with leaving it well alone for several reasons ... a) extra cost of ripping up and returning to nature, b) could be blocked off and used as viewing area/extra FREE car park for walkers, c) emergency route if accident in tunnel, d) 'if it ain't broke don't fix it' - we may need it one day.

Also - we would be very interested in finding out what the signage will be for traffic coming off the new roundabout on the south side of tunnel. Which direction for 'Grayshott' and 'Headley' - will they take everyone down Crossways Road (making Grayshott almost a clockwise loop for everyone coming in/going out of village? Lorries already find it v. difficult turning left into Crossways Road from Headley Road/shops

Message last edited by b-i-k-e-s on Feb 11th 2008 at 23:35.

Definitely some traffic calming needed in Crossways Road - I've mentioned this several times to Ferris Cowper. I live in it & I've seen people doing 60mph+ + along there! I agree the Headley Road traffic calming measures are rediculous though - maybe the flashing up of what speed you are doing are more effective.

Vic Cracknell

After I enquired (at HCC) re: 30mph signage/traffic calming because of the excessive speeds that many motorists reach along Crossways Road (day and night) I received this response ...


I write further to your recent enquiry regarding the above.
The 30 mph speed limit terminal signs have been made as conspicuous as
possible in the past with the use of backing boards as it would not be
feasible to relocate the terminal points on the A3 either side of the
junction due to Department for Transport guidance. Unfortunately
repeater signing is not allowed in 30 mph speed limit areas where street
lighting exists.
However, a traffic calming proposal has been developed for Crossways
Road which would involve 'speed cushions' (road humps with gaps between
them for wide axle vehicles such as buses) along its length and funding
is currently being sought for this scheme as part of the Hindhead Tunnel
works.

Yours sincerely,
Simon Nightingale

Transport Team
Hampshire Highways East
Hampshire County Council
Central Depot, Bar End Road
Winchester, Hampshire, SO23 9NP
Email: simon.nightingale@hants.gov.uk
Tel: (01962) 892872 Fax: (01962) 843974



b-i-k-e-s I don't believe that the 'speed cushions' will do anything to abate the higher speeds that some motorists (lorries, coaches, cars and bikes) currenly do along the road. If they can't do 30mph signage then maybe a painted '30' on the road AND solid speed ramps (not brick as they become loose and make a noise) would be more effective (especially with painted white triangle to highlight the 'up' ramp - also these seem to make crossing the road safer for pedestrians as traffic does seem to slow down better, since they view them as an extension of the pavement.